Sunday, May 15, 2011

Democracy Wins ~An analysis on Poll Verdict



By this time everyone might be aware of the election results.Headlines Today post poll survey predicted DMK to win these elections by a whisker.CNN-IBN predicted that the ADMK will not get majority on its own and it has to depend on its allies like DMDK and Communists.Tamil Nadu's no.1 crap magazine Nakkeeran predicted a repeat of DMK govt.Junior Vikatan too predicted that ADMK will not get majority on its own.But one man predicted more than 175 seats to ADMK and he was too strong on his opinion.He was none other than the veteran journalist Mr.Cho Ramaswamy.But not only Cho,one more person predicted 180+ seats to ADMK+ and its none other than me :P.

ADMK won with an overwhelming majority.What does this symbolize?Is this a Jayalalitha wave?Is this nothing more than sheer arithmatic?Does Vijayakanth have a significant role in this huge success?Or is this an anti-DMK wave?Let me explain.

If you are going to think that,ADMK's huge success in TN is sheer arithmatic,then its like the same old story of sour grapes.This is a severe blow to corruption,nepotism,atrocities,rowdiism,goondaism,monarchy.The people have taught a clear lesson to the DMK-Congress alliance.I am not an ADMK partyman or an ADMK sympathizer.I am just a common man like every other individual and so I am not writing all these stuff to satisfy the ADMK supremo.I have facts to substantiate my stand.

In 1996,ADMK won just 4 seats.There was an anti-Jayalalitha wave and not pro-Karunanidhi wave.In 96,Tamil Maanila Congress(TMC) led by G.K.Mooppanaar played a major part in bringing back the DMK to power(for this alliance also Cho was the co-ordinator).Also Rajnikanth's support to DMK-TMC alliance helped them to a great extent.Had Rajni entered politics in 96,he would have been the Chief Minister(anyway that is past).Again 2001,the ADMK+ won with absolute majority and formed a govt on its own.So,the verdict was clear that it was a perfect anti-DMK wave.Whereas the scenario was entirely different in 2006.The ADMK alliance won 69 seats in TN,with ADMK alone getting 61 seats.The DMK couldn't get a majority on its own and it formed a govt at the state under the mercy of congress.Yes Jaya rightly pointed out "Minority DMK Govt" frequently :D.

This is what we should call as sheer arithmatic.Because,in 2001 there was no third party to give a stiff competition to the 2 major Dravidian parties.But in 2006,Vijayakanth emerged as a powerful force.His party won just 1 MLA(which was Vijayakanth himself),but it got a voteshare of around 7-8%.The anti-DMK votes got split and at the end of the day,the loser was Jayalalithaa.ADMK's politics itself is based on anti-DMK votes,when that is getting diverted,definitely she will be the loser.Inspite of all these factors,she didn't lose cheaply and her party managed to get 60+ seats.One thing we can clearly understand from this fact is that,had Vijayakanth not floated a party and contested the 2006 elections,Jayalalitha would have got a second term for sure.In 2009 parliament elections too,Vijayakanth played the spoilsport,though his party didn't win any MP seat,still it managed to spoil the prospects of ADMK atleast in 20 constituencies.Point to be noted here is,though the DMK bribed the voters to a great extent,it won only because of DMDK.

This is the reason why many political analysts insisted an ADMK-DMDK alliance.Now because of this alliance,both the parties have benefited to a greater extent.Vijayakanth,who alone went to assembly during the last govt,as an MLA,is now going to sit as the leader of opposition.His' is the 2nd largest party.ADMK is going to form its own govt,with 150+ MLAs,which means we are going to see a stable govt for the next 5 yrs.

The Tamil Nadu voters has sent out some messages to the politicians.If you think that you can easily win based on your caste support,then you will definitely not.This was pretty clear from the way the PMK and VCK parties suffering a humiliating defeat.PMK was able to win just 3 out of 31 seats and VCK lost all the 10.The PMK lost in its founder's town(Tindivanam) itself.Manidhaneya Makkal Katchi(ADMK ally) was able to win some seats,but Muslim League(DMK ally) couldn't win any seat.Doesn't this clearly mean that people voted only based on governance not based on caste/religion?

This election also has sent a strong message to the corrupt politicians.The DMK thought that they could easily 'buy' the victory by bribing the voters.They have given the worst possible govt in the past 5 yrs,but still they hope that they can easily win by bribing the voters.In Rishivandhiyam constituency,its MLA(now ex-MLA) Sivaraj paid around 3 to 4K to voters to defeat Vijayakanth.The voters without any hesitation got the money and voted for Vijayakanth without any second thought.He won with a huge margin of 30,000 votes.

I have been saying this constantly.Comedians/actors/actresses/clowns can bring crowd to meetings.Crowd will clap,laugh and enjoy these artistes' speech.But that will not transform into votes.Our people are not that much dumb to believe every crap that the sun tv telecasted.Vadivelu's campaign definitely had a great effect in this election.It gave a huge publicity to 'politician' Vijayakanth and his party.Even Jaya tv didn't give that much coverage to Vijayakanth as given by sun tv/kalaignar tv.Using comedians and actors during campaign is a common tradition in India.But Vadivelu's campaign was awkward.That has really irritated the people of TN. Result - Vijayakanth's party wins more no. of seats.My point has been proved perfectly.Vadivelu's half-baked stupid campaigns cannot spoil the reputation of either Vijayakanth or the prospects of the ADMK.

One disappointment is in the form of Saidhai.Duraisamy.I doubt that some fraudulent activities has happened there and as a result of which M K Stalin won.NDTV said Stalin lost.But later on,after some chaos in the counting process there,Stalin was 'declared' winner.What's really disappointing is,an able person will not become a minister now.

Another disappointment is in the form of Vaiko.Mr.Vaiko should have bargained for some 12-15 seats and he should have contested the elections with ADMK.Had he done that,definitely he would have got 10 MLAs.He was with ADMK for 5 yrs completely and he was a loyal ally.But he should have realized his limitations and should have accepted the offer of 12 seats.You have missed a great opportunity Mr.Vaiko.I wrote in this same space one month back about Vaiko under this LINK as follows:

Vaiko announced that his party will not contest in the upcoming polls.This is suicidal.Vaiko may be a honest politician,but he is not just smart enough to survive in politics.After elections,I believe a majority of MDMK partymen will join DMK and ADMK.And his decision to boycott the polls will not produce any major effects.Vaiko is an excellent orator and losing his fiery campaigns is definitely a set back for ADMK and the MDMK partymen are just too good in doing field works.But this is not going to affect the chances of an ADMK win.At the end of the day Mr.Vaiko is going to be the sore looser.

Not only TN,there were also elections for 4 other states.In Assam,Tarun Gogoi has won for the 3rd consecutive time.The only state in which the congress party was able to win convincingly.Of-course the people of West Bengal has dethroned the 34 year communist rule and has voted for a change.The congress cannot claim even a single percent credit for this success.It was all a Mamata wave and the anti-incumbency factor that brought the Trinamool Congress to power.The congress is just enjoying the benefits of being an ally of Mamta Banerjee.But I feel the people of Bengal will soon feel that Communist rule was far better. 



It is the Kerala election results,which is really interesting.'Experts' predicted a landslide victory for the congress there.The English channels,CNN-IBN,Headlines Today tried their best to create a picture as if the congress was all set to rock the Kerala.I had a belief that the communist party would do well even though they lose,as they were projecting V S Achuthanadan as their CM.V S A is an honest man and his bold actions against corruption deserves a second term for sure.And the verdict was clear.People has not let them completely down.The LDF alliance won 68 out of 140 seats and the congress could manage around 70.Now there is going to be a hung assembly in Kerala.Which means that the people doesn't have faith on the congress.

In Pudhucherry(or Pondicherry) too AINRCongress+ADMK alliance won with a clear majority and N Rangasamy,who floated the NR Congress only 2 months ago,is all set to become CM.Which is again a blow to the congress.

The verdict is clear - perform or perish.You can't 'buy' the victories.Democracy still exists.Majority of the people participate in democracy.Those who refrained from voting deliberately are sore losers.If its due to situations and circumstances that you were not able to vote means,its ok,not a mistake.Those who voted can feel proud of themselves.Jayalalitha or Vijayakanth or Karunanidhi,whoever it be,only we,the voters,who decide who should rule this state.If we are not ok with a govt,we have the power to unseat them.I salute every individual who had cast his votes(you might have voted for DMK/ADMK/BJP/49-O,it doesn't matter) .People who consider themselves as 'intelligents' and chose not to vote should feel ashamed of themselves.

Corruption lost,caste lost,religion lost,but Democracy won.Long live democracy!!!.Let us hope we get a good government atleast from now.

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Karthikeyan said...

"I am not an ADMK partyman or an ADMK sympathizer."
Is it??????????:p

"In 1996,ADMK won just 4 seats.There was an anti-Jayalalitha wave and not pro-Karunanidhi wave"
True and that is the same case even this time.

"Again 2001,the ADMK+ won with absolute majority and formed a govt on its own.So,the verdict was clear that it was a perfect anti-DMK wave."
Absolutely wide off the mark:p Any neutral observer of TN politics will know that its sheer arithmetics and so is the 2006 DMK victory. Chk this link. Check the vote-shares to know why its just arithmetics.http://www.indian-elections.com/assembly-elections/tamil-nadu/election-result-06.html

"The DMK couldn't get a majority on its own and it formed a govt at the state under the mercy of congress.Yes Jaya rightly pointed out "Minority DMK Govt" frequently :D"
Its pretty obvious tht when you stand in less no of seats there is a high chance of not getting majority as a single party.

"The Tamil Nadu voters has sent out some messages to the politicians.If you think that you can easily win based on your caste support,then you will definitely not.This was pretty clear from the way the PMK and VCK parties suffering a humiliating defeat.PMK was able to win just 3 out of 31 seats and VCK lost all the 10.The PMK lost in its founder's town(Tindivanam) itself.Manidhaneya Makkal Katchi(ADMK ally) was able to win some seats,but Muslim League(DMK ally) couldn't win any seat."
Good observation and am very happy of such a trend in TN.

"I doubt that some fraudulent activities has happened there and as a result of which M K Stalin won."
your doubt is the answer to my first comment.

Karthikeyan said...

"I feel the people of Bengal will soon feel that Communist rule was far better. "

Hmmmm I feel in the future it will be the same situation as in TN. Devil vs Satan

Karthikeyan said...

"Let us hope we get a good government atleast from now."

The same old Ilavasams have come back i guess:p(good governance???)

Harish.M said...

@Karthikeyan -

//Is it??????????:p

I have criticized Jayalalitha so many times,in between 2001-2006 itself..For that u should know my complete past..Anyway I felt the ADMK regime in 2001-06 was better and it deserved a second term..But I agree that the 96-2001 DMK govt was somewhat ok and it was not so bad..

If u think Stalin really won in that constituency,its ur perception..NDTV reported that Stalin lost..But again after lot of chaos and after some gimmicks,Stalin was 'declared' winner...SaidhaiDuraisamy is the real winner..

//Its pretty obvious tht when you stand in less no of seats there is a high chance of not getting majority as a single party.

Whats the need to go alone?And they contested around 130-140 seats last time and they ended up with 96..Which means they lost more than 30 seats with a powerful alliance..On the other hand, without any powerful alliance ADMK won more than 60 seats,doesn't this indicate the Vijayakanth factor?Had there been no DMDK,Jaya would have become CM in 2006..

The real game begins only from now on..

Harish.M said...


//Hmmmm I feel in the future it will be the same situation as in TN. Devil vs Satan

If such a situation occurs,there is a great possibility of a non-DMK/ADMK govt in TN ;-)

Harish.M said...

//The same old Ilavasams have come back i guess:p(good governance???)

These freebies are just a ploy to capture power..I am damn sure they will not give freebies as they mentioned in their manifesto.. Moreover in the past,the ADMK govt was just too good in handling law and order..They killed so many terrorists and goondas..Let us hope that happens again..

And all these 5 yrs the Karunanidhi govt was able to survive merely because of the revenue generated through tasmac,which was Jaya's idea..

In 2001-06 the electricity management was far better than the DMK govt..So based on statistics,I believe they can revive TN atleast to some extent..Thats why I said,"let us hope for a better governance"

Comparatively there were several positive aspects during the 2001-06govt of Jaya..Let us wait and watch,how things proceed

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"I have criticized Jayalalitha so many times,in between 2001-2006 itself..For that u should know my complete past..Anyway I felt the ADMK regime in 2001-06 was better and it deserved a second term..But I agree that the 96-2001 DMK govt was somewhat ok and it was not so bad.." of the years u have pointed out bearing 2001-2002 I know u from 2003 I guess. People who know u know the truth. SO no point in hiding it.
"If u think Stalin really won in that constituency,its ur perception..NDTV reported that Stalin lost..But again after lot of chaos and after some gimmicks,Stalin was 'declared' winner...SaidhaiDuraisamy is the real winner..
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Again u prove my case tht u are a pro ADMK guy. There were problems in loyola college whe i was passing by. The problem creators were none other thn ADMK ppl. And to ur note, Praveen kumar the election commissioner had been pretty strict on the issue. The votes were promptly rechecked wit form 17 to identify the truth and stalin was declared winner.

"Whats the need to go alone?And they contested around 130-140 seats last time and they ended up with 96..Which means they lost more than 30 seats with a powerful alliance..On the other hand, without any powerful alliance ADMK won more than 60 seats,doesn't this indicate the Vijayakanth factor?Had there been no DMDK,Jaya would have become CM in 2006.."
Again u got it wrong I m not talking abt DMDK here. My point is both 2001 and 2006 are arithmetics.
When u accomodate more parties u ll be pushed to stand in less seats. ADMK stood in more places relatively. Thts the truth. voteshares strengthen my stand.


"
If such a situation occurs,there is a great possibility of a non-DMK/ADMK govt in TN ;-)"

Again u got my point wrong. I was talking abt WB and not TN.
Anyway regarding Non DMK/ADMK hmmmm I doubt it even in next election but yes I want one.But I m not ok with DMDK either.

Karthikeyan said...

"//The same old Ilavasams have come back i guess:p(good governance???)

These freebies are just a ploy to capture power..I am damn sure they will not give freebies as they mentioned in their manifesto.. Moreover in the past,the ADMK govt was just too good in handling law and order..They killed so many terrorists and goondas..Let us hope that happens again..

And all these 5 yrs the Karunanidhi govt was able to survive merely because of the revenue generated through tasmac,which was Jaya's idea..

In 2001-06 the electricity management was far better than the DMK govt..So based on statistics,I believe they can revive TN atleast to some extent..Thats why I said,"let us hope for a better governance"

Comparatively there were several positive aspects during the 2001-06govt of Jaya..Let us wait and watch,how things proceed"

Regarding the freebies I am afraid that she is planning to sign certain things in the immediate future. Not sure. But seems she is goin to. I don want them seriously. Yes Law and Order was way too good during 2001 to 06 , one fact which I shld appreciate her for. Electricity I don hve any idea. Its the same to me for the past 15 yrs. But i do see severe power cuts in villages. Should be good if she tackles them effectively. But industrial development was nt tht great during her time. I hope she strongly sheds her ego and work with centre for mutual benefit.

Harish.M said...

// of the years u have pointed out bearing 2001-2002 I know u from 2003 I guess. People who know u know the truth. SO no point in hiding it.

u know me only from 2005 :-)..Within an year the ADMK govt ended and after that only DMK was in power..You don't know much about my political stand before 2005 :-)..Blaming the opposition for most of the issues becomes irrelevant..So only those who are in power needs to be criticized for their mistakes..

//The votes were promptly rechecked wit form 17 to identify the truth and stalin was declared winner.

What I said was not my observation or my opinion,in some papers too they have mentioned like EVMs were changed..I agree Praveen Kumar was strict,but he himself has uttered a statement that though the election commission is strict,it couldn't prevent money flow(they did a gr8 job though)..So this might be one such incident..

Let me keep it as u say,Stalin won by legal means,but I have spoken to people,who said in their area(comes under Kolathur) the DMK people gave 5 to 6k/vote..Inspite of bribing to that extent also,he couldn't get a difference of more than 2000 odd votes..

//Again u got it wrong I m not talking abt DMDK here. My point is both 2001 and 2006 are arithmetics.
When u accomodate more parties u ll be pushed to stand in less seats. ADMK stood in more places relatively. Thts the truth. voteshares strengthen my stand.

Now also ADMK formed a mega alliance..didn't they contest in more constituencies..Its true that alliance helped ADMK to a great extent in 2001,but in 2006,there was no anti-incumbency..In 2001,it was there..Thats the reason for ADMK contesting in more constituencies..Till the last moment,many felt that ADMK will come back to power,but vote split has cost them dearly and DMK came back to power..In 2001,alliance mattered a lot,but alliance alone didn't fetch them victory..

In 2006,only alliance saved DMK and thats y they couldn't win more..Had there been an anti-incumbency to that extent,DMK would have easily won more than 120seats..It happened in 1996..It didn't happen in 2006..

//Again u got my point wrong. I was talking abt WB and not TN.
Anyway regarding Non DMK/ADMK hmmmm I doubt it even in next election but yes I want one.But I m not ok with DMDK eithe

This one I interpreted wrongly..I didn't notice the word 'as'..

DMDK alone will not form a 3rd front..And we should wait and see how Vijayakanth performs as the leader of opposition..

Harish.M said...

//Electricity I don hve any idea. Its the same to me for the past 15 yrs. But i do see severe power cuts in villages. Should be good if she tackles them effectively. But industrial development was nt tht great during her time. I hope she strongly sheds her ego and work with centre for mutual benefit.


In city u can't find much difference..I was in town and I communicate with people from villages and towns frequently,so to some extent am able to distinguish certain things..

Industrial development was not so great under Jaya's govt - agreed..But small scale industries had a good growth and the economy was far better..Let us see how she handles the power..She has to take responsibility for every positive as well as negative outcome in her govt,as they are forming a govt with thumping majority..

I too don't want that freebies thing to happen..I have a hope that it wont happen..Not that she wont give,but she can't :-)

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// of the years u have pointed out bearing 2001-2002 I know u from 2003 I guess. People who know u know the truth. SO no point in hiding it.

u know me only from 2005 :-)..Within an year the ADMK govt ended and after that only DMK was in power..You don't know much about my political stand before 2005 :-)..Blaming the opposition for most of the issues becomes irrelevant..So only those who are in power needs to be criticized for their mistakes..

Yea sorry for the confusion I know u from 2005 only. But tht doesnt nullify the point. As I said ppl who knw u knw the truth.

"What I said was not my observation or my opinion,in some papers too they have mentioned like EVMs were changed..I agree Praveen Kumar was strict,but he himself has uttered a statement that though the election commission is strict,it couldn't prevent money flow(they did a gr8 job though)..So this might be one such incident..

Let me keep it as u say,Stalin won by legal means,but I have spoken to people,who said in their area(comes under Kolathur) the DMK people gave 5 to 6k/vote..Inspite of bribing to that extent also,he couldn't get a difference of more than 2000 odd votes.."


From your statement I realise tht if things are positive for ADMK thn everything has been rite and if something goes wrong against ADMK then there is something fishy :p.And yea kolathur is near my house only. and its true tht money was given not just by DMK even by ADMK( a little lesser amount). But I don think ppl here voted on tht basis If tht had been the case DMK would have won everywhere. As I said its predominantly occupied by railway employees among whom DMK has a good support. But yes even communists have a good support here.

Now also ADMK formed a mega alliance..didn't they contest in more constituencies..Its true that alliance helped ADMK to a great extent in 2001,but in 2006,there was no anti-incumbency..In 2001,it was there..Thats the reason for ADMK contesting in more constituencies..Till the last moment,many felt that ADMK will come back to power,but vote split has cost them dearly and DMK came back to power..In 2001,alliance mattered a lot,but alliance alone didn't fetch them victory..


Most of the surveys had predicted a DMK govt before 2006. It wasnt sudden n all. before every elections there is an anti incumbency factor in TN. Good political observers will know this. If arithmetics are there they could save themselves. The central elections before the 2006 is a clear indicator of whether there was anti incumbency or not.had the state elections were conducted one more year later and if ADMK had retained some parties it could have been back to power. Regarding vijaykanth I prefer devil or satan for him.

Harish.M said...

//As I said ppl who knw u knw the truth.


Peope who knows me well,who have been with me for several yrs know the truth for sure :-)..

//its true tht money was given not just by DMK even by ADMK( a little lesser amount).

I have mentioned that too...and its not little lesser amount..I don't say if things go against ADMK it is fishy...Based on newspapers report only I quoted that..and if u see Thangam Thennarasu,a former DMK minister won..there too election commission was strict..Thennarasu was a good minister and he deserved to win easily..When it comes for VIP constituencies and that too when some chaos happens to this extent,its quite common that suspicions will arise..

//Most of the surveys had predicted a DMK govt before 2006.

Exit poll surveys predicted a DMK govt..Pre-poll surveys didn't predict a DMK govt..Some magazines predicted DMK and some predicted ADMK(as usual)..

In 2004,ADMK's only ally was BJP..All other parties were with DMK..Caste votes,minority votes everything will go to DMK alliance only..

Moreover Jaya's action towards govt servants created a wide spread hatred among the govt employees..even now they don't vote for her..They aligned with BJP,which again has no ground in TN..And there was anti-incumbency factor in 2004..But after 2 yrs it was not there..She revoked some laws like anti-conversion law(which she shouldn't have)..Her govt handled the tsunami situations properly..They killed Veerappan..So all these things gave an image makeover to her..

Since she had no alliance,to be apt,since congress was not with her,she couldn't win..69 seats with only smaller parties like MDMK and VCK is not an easy task to achieve..

I am not commenting on Vijayakanth right now..I need to observe him more..Then only can comment on his abilities..

Karthikeyan said...

//As I said ppl who knw u knw the truth.


Peope who knows me well,who have been with me for several yrs know the truth for sure :-)..

True even ppl who read ur blogs will know.


//its true tht money was given not just by DMK even by ADMK( a little lesser amount).

I have mentioned that too...and its not little lesser amount..I don't say if things go against ADMK it is fishy...Based on newspapers report only I quoted that..and if u see Thangam Thennarasu,a former DMK minister won..there too election commission was strict..Thennarasu was a good minister and he deserved to win easily..When it comes for VIP constituencies and that too when some chaos happens to this extent,its quite common that suspicions will arise..

To say tht u suspect is different from outrightly telling tht the other person is the winner. You did it in ur previous post again reiterating my stand on your favouritism.

Exit poll surveys predicted a DMK govt..Pre-poll surveys didn't predict a DMK govt..Some magazines predicted DMK and some predicted ADMK(as usual)..

All reliable surveys predicted a DMK victory I neither believe nakeeran nor tughlaq.

In 2004,ADMK's only ally was BJP..All other parties were with DMK..Caste votes,minority votes everything will go to DMK alliance only.
So why do u think it was a whitewash then????? ADMK was capable enough to gain 61 in the next state election with a similar alliance but why did it lose 40 0 in the central, again reiterates the fact. My point is TN ppl alternate their favourites after every election over a period of time. U hve indeed accepted tht in ur post now

Harish.M said...

True even ppl who read ur blogs will know

:-)

//To say tht u suspect is different from outrightly telling tht the other person is the winner.

Based on my suspicion and based on the reports and based on DMK's history,I said that..And nothing wrong in it too..

//All reliable surveys predicted a DMK victory I neither believe nakeeran nor tughlaq.


Nakkeeran always predicts DMK only..Thuglak surveys said ADMK will win,but they also had mentioned that Vijayakanth's vote split and DMK's strong alliance might push ADMK to back..That is what happened..

//So why do u think it was a whitewash then?????

I have told the reasons in my previous comment..Jayalalitha's actions earned the wrath of general public and without any alliance she lost in all constituencies..

//ADMK was capable enough to gain 61 in the next state election with a similar alliance but why did it lose 40 0 in the central,

Assembly elections are different from Parliament elections..In 1980 ADMK(when MGR was there) won just 2 seats(or 1 I think) in Parliament elections..The congress-DMK dismissed the ADMK govt with a hope of coming back to power,but they were proved wrong and MGR came back with a bang..

//My point is TN ppl alternate their favourites after every election over a period of time.

Ya after a period of time,no govt in TN could get a second term,but at the same time,every govt had its own majority,except the 2006-11DMK govt..Thats why I said there was no anti-incumbency for ADMK..in96 ADMK had a huge anti-incumbency and ended up with just 4 seats,with Jaya herself losing out in Bargur..Considering the 40-0,the same amount of anti-incumbency was there..It changed,had it not,ADMK would have lost by a huge margin..

Change of govt doesn't mean anti-incumbency..

Karthikeyan said...

Based on my suspicion and based on the reports and based on DMK's history,I said that..And nothing wrong in it too..
As I said ur suspicion is more thn enough to prove my point on ur favoritism

Nakkeeran always predicts DMK only..Thuglak surveys said ADMK will win,but they also had mentioned that Vijayakanth's vote split and DMK's strong alliance might push ADMK to back..That is what happened..
To me both are crap papers. and honestly speaking many know tughlaq is pro ADMK.

Assembly elections are different from Parliament elections..In 1980 ADMK(when MGR was there) won just 2 seats(or 1 I think) in Parliament elections..The congress-DMK dismissed the ADMK govt with a hope of coming back to power,but they were proved wrong and MGR came back with a bang..
Assembly elections are no different from parliaments in case of TN. Ppl don vote for congress or BJP here. Whatever election it is the result is an answer to the performance of the previous running state govt only.Political observers in TN will agree with this.

Change of govt doesn't mean anti-incumbency..

If thts true for 2006 then it should be true in 2001 too.

Harish.M said...

//As I said ur suspicion is more thn enough to prove my point on ur favoritism

I don't care about what people think about me..I talk/write whatever I feel is right..

//To me both are crap papers. and honestly speaking many know tughlaq is pro ADMK.

This is the most insane comparison..Get a life..I know u have not read even 1 single edition of Thuglak fully..So your opinion doesn't matter...

//Assembly elections are no different from parliaments in case of TN. Ppl don vote for congress or BJP here. Whatever election it is the result is an answer to the performance of the previous running state govt only.Political observers in TN will agree with this.

Ya the Kalaignar govt was like heaven between 2006-09,thats why they won 28 seats in 2009 Parliament elections..For the past 12 yrs only DMK is in power in center,irrespective of state govts..Parliament elections are entirely different from Assembly elections..Thats y I quoted the 1980 elections..People lost faith in Janata Govt and there was an Indira Gandhi wave..Thats y ADMK lost..Happenings in Delhi plays a major role..But I didn't deny the fact that in 2004 anti-incumbency factor contributed much to the defeat of ADMK..A 2 yr period is more than enough to get an image makeover..That happened in 2006 but that didn't happen in 2001.. There was no anti-incumbency for sure in 2006..

//If thts true for 2006 then it should be true in 2001 too.

I need not agree with all your perceptions

Anonymous said...

Gokul:
"you might have voted for DMK/ADMK/BJP/49-O,it doesn't matter"


Dey IJK va vittutiyae daa...!!!

Dai modhalla sandaiya niruthunga daaa....!!!

Karthikeyan said...

I don't care about what people think about me..I talk/write whatever I feel is right..

When U talk/write whatever u feel is write u should better button up when others express their view on a discussion

This is the most insane comparison..Get a life..I know u have not read even 1 single edition of Thuglak fully..So your opinion doesn't matter...

To be honest I hve not read nakeeran. And I hve read tughlaq just out of curiosity.(a curiosity to know why u talk abt it often). So pls comment after getting things rite. About me getting a life I think I have a satisfactory one. I don want your suggestion on it.

Ya the Kalaignar govt was like heaven between 2006-09,thats why they won 28 seats in 2009 Parliament elections..For the past 12 yrs only DMK is in power in center,irrespective of state govts..Parliament elections are entirely different from Assembly elections..Thats y I quoted the 1980 elections..People lost faith in Janata Govt and there was an Indira Gandhi wave..Thats y ADMK lost..Happenings in Delhi plays a major role..But I didn't deny the fact that in 2004 anti-incumbency factor contributed much to the defeat of ADMK..A 2 yr period is more than enough to get an image makeover..That happened in 2006 but that didn't happen in 2001.. There was no anti-incumbency for sure in 2006..


Haha govt being heaven like :o Thts never been in our country for many years. And about happenings in Delhi making a lot of fuss. I strongly disagree on this. As i said every Political observer knows this. The state govt's performance does matter. I dont find any image makeover in tht time as the vote share has not increased from 2001. AdMK by arithmetics own a vote share of 31%. It has just stayed there. nothing else.


I need not agree with all your perceptions

I never ask anyone to agree neither I post advicing ppl. So keep ur advice to urself

Karthikeyan said...

And yea if u could not digest others view being contradictory to u its better u stop inviting contradicting species like me to view ur blog. You always have the option of talking with like minded ppl and cherishing ur political views

Harish.M said...

//To be honest I hve not read nakeeran. And I hve read tughlaq just out of curiosity.(a curiosity to know why u talk abt it often). So pls comment after getting things rite. About me getting a life I think I have a satisfactory one. I don want your suggestion on it.

I have been reading it for the past 15 yrs..I know more about it.. Also I have read Nakkeeran so many times on so many issues..That's why I said its a bad comparison and the phrase "get a life" doesn't mean ur personal life here..What have I got to do with ur personal life as a blogger? Get a life is the phrase related to the issue..

//As i said every Political observer knows this. The state govt's performance does matter. I dont find any image makeover in tht time as the vote share has not increased from 2001. AdMK by arithmetics own a vote share of 31%. It has just stayed there. nothing else.

Your statement itself is a vindication for my stand..Anti-incumbency means,vote bank should go down..As per ur statement,that didn't happen,which clearly says there was no anti-incumbency..

//When U talk/write whatever u feel is write u should better button up when others express their view on a discussion

I can't keep on thinking what a so and so person will think if I write this,if I write that..I can only write what I feel is right and if u have contradictions,u can very well criticize..I need not accept all your criticisms too...

You are telling your opinion and am telling mine..

// So keep ur advice to urself

I never asked anyone to buy my opinion/advice :D..

//And yea if u could not digest others view being contradictory to u its better u stop inviting contradicting species like me to view ur blog. You always have the option of talking with like minded ppl and cherishing ur political views

Why should I change my view just because someone says that's wrong when I am pretty clear on it?

You should understand the basic difference here..It is not the question of u viewing the blog or not..Before writing or talking I can only check whether the facts which am speaking/writing is right or wrong with the available sources.. I need not worry about what others are going to think about me for posting something here..

In future,I MAY go against the ruling party..I may support someother party.. At that time,I may be termed as a supporter of that party..So I simply can't keep on thinking on that line..If I am going to think that way,then I will only be thinking and I can't do anything else..

At the same time,whatever I post here might not be 100% right everytime..Its quite natural for anyone to make errors,when ppl come across such errors,they have the option of pointing it out and if its really a mistake I can give up and change it..I have done that in several occasions..

If am not convinced,I need not buy anyone's opinion and it holds true for others too..

Harish.M said...

Just read this,if u have time..Opinion of a common man in TN.. Am just a common man like him..Again this doesn't mean that I agree with every line written in that article...

http://dinamani.com/edition/Story.aspx?SectionName=Editorial%20Articles&artid=419088&SectionID=133&MainSectionID=133&SEO=&Title=%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B3%20%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81...

Harish.M said...

@Gokul

//Dey IJK va vittutiyae daa...!!!

Sorry dude..I should have included IJK for sure,being a product of SRM,I shouldn't have missed it..Apologies :D..Vaazhga paarivendhar :D

//Dai modhalla sandaiya niruthunga daaa....!!!

Constructive argument/criticism is the best thing a writer/artiste can hope for :-)...Let the fight go on and u can join too :D

Karthikeyan said...

There are many other common man giving their opinion in different newspapers on different issues. Its not abt the common mans view.The common man's ability to tolerate an equal common man's view.

Harish.M said...

//The common man's ability to tolerate an equal common man's view.

I don't really understand what u mean by tolerance here..I never find fault with the common man who support DMK or anyother party..A common man has several reasons to support/abuse a party..Am only against a section of people who for the sole purpose of running their business,write all crap to satisfy the supremo of one party.. Again this is common to all parties..

To accept everything that others say is only tolerance means,I don't have that..I don't want to have that rather..Infact I don't want anyone to have such tolerance..

Karthikeyan said...

I don't really understand what u mean by tolerance here..I never find fault with the common man who support DMK or anyother party..A common man has several reasons to support/abuse a party..Am only against a section of people who for the sole purpose of running their business,write all crap to satisfy the supremo of one party.. Again this is common to all parties..

To accept everything that others say is only tolerance means,I don't have that..I don't want to have that rather..Infact I don't want anyone to have such tolerance.


Tolerance in no way means accepting others view but to respect their view. And if u phrases like those how would one rate u as being tolerant. This is what tolerance is all about. And this kind of tolerance is required by everyone. But again u having it or not, its ur wish

Karthikeyan said...

I just don understand tht how my comment disappears even after posting it twice. Now this is wat i call tolerance

Harish.M said...

// but to respect their view. And if u phrases like those how would one rate u as being tolerant.

What kind of disrespect u r finding here..If the phrase "Get a life" is what irked u to this extent,then I have to say,my intention was not to ridicule u personally..I told this in my previous comment too..

As I said already,we need not think about others view while writing or speaking,as long as our intention is not to insult others..And my intention was not to insult anyone here...I guess u have seen me arguing like this 'n' no. of times in trains, college, forums,orkut,facebook etc..From where the question of respect or tolerance comes into picture,I can't understand..

The argument is open..It will never end..I will be happy as long as it remains an argument related to topic alone :-)

Harish.M said...

//I just don understand tht how my comment disappears even after posting it twice. Now this is wat i call tolerance

hehe..:D I don't delete any posts dude..Its some bug with blogger.com..You can check my previous post in this same blog..All comments were deleted and the blogger admin has given a msg like,they will try to restore those comments...

For me,no. of comments matters more..

Going by ur argument,only blogger admin doesn't have any tolerance :D

Karthikeyan said...

I have been reading it for the past 15 yrs..I know more about it.. Also I have read Nakkeeran so many times on so many issues..That's why I said its a bad comparison and the phrase "get a life" doesn't mean ur personal life here..What have I got to do with ur personal life as a blogger? Get a life is the phrase related to the issue..

To know about the worth of a magazine i dont think 15 yrs is necessary. Even a single read can do the trick. I have read it considerable no of times in the past and I very well know its a pro ADMK/BJP party. And many know this too. And about me getting a life even with regards to this issue I don think u have any right to utter tht if u want a constructive criticism/argument/discussion. To be tolerant is more important. By tolerance it doesnt mean u gt to accept my views. But yes u got to respect others view which doesnt call for phrases like the one which u use.

Your statement itself is a vindication for my stand..Anti-incumbency means,vote bank should go down..As per ur statement,that didn't happen,which clearly says there was no anti-incumbency..

Hahaa. U have urself on this issue. This is wat i said in my previous post. There was no anti incumbency in 2001 also. The DMK had its vote share intact. It was sheer arithmetics..

I can't keep on thinking what a so and so person will think if I write this,if I write that..I can only write what I feel is right and if u have contradictions,u can very well criticize..I need not accept all your criticisms too...

You are telling your opinion and am telling mineI never asked anyone to buy my opinion/advice :D..Why should I change my view just because someone says that's wrong when I am pretty clear on it?

You should understand the basic difference here..It is not the question of u viewing the blog or not..Before writing or talking I can only check whether the facts which am speaking/writing is right or wrong with the available sources.. I need not worry about what others are going to think about me for posting something here..

As I said u need not accept my criticisms but yes to foster discussions of the sought u hve indicated u need to tolerate them.
You need not accept when someone tells tht u r wrong. But it doesnt mean others are always wrong. So my views carry the same notion as urs. So I don find u more better to use phrases as those against my comment. It just shows ur inability to tolerate or frustration whatsoever it is



In future,I MAY go against the ruling party..I may support someother party.. At that time,I may be termed as a supporter of that party..So I simply can't keep on thinking on that line..If I am going to think that way,then I will only be thinking and I can't do anything else..

At the same time,whatever I post here might not be 100% right everytime..Its quite natural for anyone to make errors,when ppl come across such errors,they have the option of pointing it out and if its really a mistake I can give up and change it..I have done that in several occasions..

My judgement or view on u being a pro ADMK/ BJP is based on my personal interactions with u. Many would accept it too. But yes its my view and need not be true as u say. But it need not be wrong either. U have every rite too negate it. But negating doesnt make it false.

Karthikeyan said...

hehe..:D I don't delete any posts dude..Its some bug with blogger.com..You can check my previous post in this same blog..All comments were deleted and the blogger admin has given a msg like,they will try to restore those comments...

For me,no. of comments matters more..

Going by ur argument,only blogger admin doesn't have any tolerance :D

Sorry for my misconception

Karthikeyan said...

What kind of disrespect u r finding here..If the phrase "Get a life" is what irked u to this extent,then I have to say,my intention was not to ridicule u personally..I told this in my previous comment too..

As I said already,we need not think about others view while writing or speaking,as long as our intention is not to insult others..And my intention was not to insult anyone here...I guess u have seen me arguing like this 'n' no. of times in trains, college, forums,orkut,facebook etc..From where the question of respect or tolerance comes into picture,I can't understand..

The argument is open..It will never end..I will be happy as long as it remains an argument related to topic alone :-)

Even I would Like to keep it to the topic only. Neither have I taken it personally. But I stand by my point on ur tolerance. I rest my case.

Harish.M said...

//Even a single read can do the trick.

News changes every week.. :D And I never said that am not a pro-BJP fellow..That is a different topic..

//I very well know its a pro ADMK/BJP party.

The person's personal relationship with a party and his views in journals need not necessarily have a link..Anyway u may think about Thuglak whatever u wish..It hardly matters to me..You compared Nakkeeran and Thuglak..I have read both,I know more about Gopal and Cho and I called the comparison meaningless..

That is a very common phrase used among the group which I move on..Don't try to find too many meanings for that one..

// So I don find u more better to use phrases as those against my comment.

You can use such phrases as well..Doesn't matter much to me..

//My judgement or view on u being a pro ADMK/ BJP is based on my personal interactions with u. Many would accept it too. But yes its my view and need not be true as u say. But it need not be wrong either. U have every rite too negate it. But negating doesnt make it false.

I too said the same long back here :-o..I too said that its ur perception that am a pro-ADMK person and I need not bother about it..

Anyway let ur view be the same as it is now..And let mine be..

Harish.M said...

//Sorry for my misconception

That's alright..

//Even I would Like to keep it to the topic only. Neither have I taken it personally. But I stand by my point on ur tolerance. I rest my case.

This is also alright :D

If I ever feel like what u have said is right on tolerance or anything else,I will change,otherwise I am not going to :-)

Karthikeyan said...

The person's personal relationship with a party and his views in journals need not necessarily have a link..Anyway u may think about Thuglak whatever u wish..It hardly matters to me..You compared Nakkeeran and Thuglak..I have read both,I know more about Gopal and Cho and I called the comparison meaningless.

About preson's relationship with a party not having anything to do it what they publish can this be held true for SUN TV????? This is wat i call favouritism. and Comparing Nakeeran with tughlaq, I din compare. I just stated both are crap.


That is a very common phrase used among the group which I move on

:o is it??

You can use such phrases as well..Doesn't matter much to me..
As I said if its unacceptable in a public forum it applies to me too. I would better try to refrain from doin so unless provocated

If I ever feel like what u have said is right on tolerance or anything else,I will change,otherwise I am not going to :-)

Its very easy to say something is wrong and ignore it.

Harish.M said...

//About preson's relationship with a party not having anything to do it what they publish can this be held true for SUN TV????? This is wat i call favouritism. and Comparing Nakeeran with tughlaq, I din compare. I just stated both are crap.

Owning something is different from being a friend..Again the comparison doesn't hold water here..

//:o is it??

Yes of-course..

//As I said if its unacceptable in a public forum it applies to me too. I would better try to refrain from doin so unless provocated

I will not use it against u,as u feel its personally against u..I don't think the phrase should not be used in public forum and all..Thats y I said,am also ok with such phrases..


//Its very easy to say something is wrong and ignore it.

Don't understand the meaning of this statement..one can't simply ignore everything..mistakes will definitely haunt...In that way,I said,in future,if I ever feel its wrong,I will change it,else I wont..

Karthikeyan said...

Owning something is different from being a friend..Again the comparison doesn't hold water here..

:o so wat abt the hindu???? As u said being a friend doesnt mean they have to be biased:p

I will not use it against u,as u feel its personally against u..I don't think the phrase should not be used in public forum and all..Thats y I said,am also ok with such phrases..

I din take it personally either. I use it more often thn anyone else though not on a public forum. And the phrase can be accepted in casual talks and not during arguments.

Don't understand the meaning of this statement..one can't simply ignore everything..mistakes will definitely haunt...In that way,I said,in future,if I ever feel its wrong,I will change it,else I wont..
I said it is easy for ppl to ignore their negatives just by assuming tht all is right wth them.

Harish.M said...

//so wat abt the hindu????As u said being a friend doesnt mean they have to be biased:p

Hindu doesn't behave like an official mouth piece of DMK..I don't like the news content published by Hindu only in the recent past(may be some 5 yrs)..But still in some aspects Hindu stands unique and still commands a respect..Hindu is a classic example of my stand..I don't accept everything that is published in Hindu and I also will not ignore everything that comes in Hindu by 'branding' it..

Many times I felt like N Ram was biased towards communist and DMK(several people have mentioned this in letters to editor column too)..And sometimes Hindu news was perfect too(with clear facts)..So I don't brand Hindu as the worst magazine and all..It is better to have a detailed debate on Hindu and Ram..

// And the phrase can be accepted in casual talks and not during arguments.

Its not offensive and all..Leave it..

//I said it is easy for ppl to ignore their negatives just by assuming tht all is right wth them.

That is ok,but sometimes our own activities will haunt us..how much ever we try to ignore things,if they were mistakes really ;-)

Karthikeyan said...

Hindu doesn't behave like an official mouth piece of DMK..I don't like the news content published by Hindu only in the recent past(may be some 5 yrs)..But still in some aspects Hindu stands unique and still commands a respect..Hindu is a classic example of my stand..I don't accept everything that is published in Hindu and I also will not ignore everything that comes in Hindu by 'branding' it..

Many times I felt like N Ram was biased towards communist and DMK(several people have mentioned this in letters to editor column too)..And sometimes Hindu news was perfect too(with clear facts)..So I don't brand Hindu as the worst magazine and all..It is better to have a detailed debate on Hindu and Ram..


Its a news to me tht u respect Hindu. But its true tht its biased to Congress and communists. So is tughlaq biased to BJP/ADMK. And yea Hindu commands respect for its its language which is better than any english daily. But Tughlaq interstingly doesn command tht except for some witty sarcasms.


Its not offensive and all..Leave it..
Yes true but during casual talks.

That is ok,but sometimes our own activities will haunt us..how much ever we try to ignore things,if they were mistakes really ;-)
Very True. But tht doesnt change them.

Harish.M said...

//Its a news to me tht u respect Hindu. But its true tht its biased to Congress and communists. So is tughlaq biased to BJP/ADMK. And yea Hindu commands respect for its its language which is better than any english daily. But Tughlaq interstingly doesn command tht except for some witty sarcasms.

You have decided so many things about me..I can't take efforts to change them..Thuglak supports ADMK/BJP "right now"..Even then it doesn't distort facts..If hindu commands respect for its language,Thuglak commands respect for its honesty..And many other features are there..That only people who know much about it can realize/understand..

//But tht doesnt change them.


oh what a pity...

Karthikeyan said...

You have decided so many things about me..I can't take efforts to change them..Thuglak supports ADMK/BJP "right now"..Even then it doesn't distort facts..If hindu commands respect for its language,Thuglak commands respect for its honesty..And many other features are there..That only people who know much about it can realize/understand..

It seems only sympathizers like you will be considered as someone who knows it


oh what a pity...
yea it is . the sad state of ppl with dead ears and predetermined mindset

Karthikeyan said...

Honesty of tughlaq???? Yea it is honest to its pro BJP/ADMK stand

Harish.M said...


//It seems only sympathizers like you will be considered as someone who knows it

//Yea it is honest to its pro BJP/ADMK stand


It's ur perception...As I have already told,I will not take efforts to change others opinion or I need not bother about what others think about me..Moreover no point in arguing with u on this issue anymore..As I already mentioned,u need not buy my opinion and I too will not buy yours..

Anyway my writing work will go on like this and the intensity will only increase :D..

And thanks for putting these many comments :D..This is the highest no. of comments,a blog post of mine has ever received :D

Karthikeyan said...

It's ur perception...As I have already told,I will not take efforts to change others opinion or I need not bother about what others think about me..Moreover no point in arguing with u on this issue anymore..As I already mentioned,u need not buy my opinion and I too will not buy yours..

Anyway my writing work will go on like this and the intensity will only increase :D..

And thanks for putting these many comments :D..This is the highest no. of comments,a blog post of mine has ever received :D

My intention here is not to changge ur mind. Its to make sure that ppl don get carried away by ur half baked stories. A coin alw2ays has two sides. My intention was to make sure tht the other side also gets it share of light. Why should I ever want u to buy my opinion. Regarding ur intensity increasing I am very happy about it. To be honest tht is not relevant to me in any way.
And as far as ur regards is concerned, hope u get more no of comments in the future not just from me .

Karthikeyan said...

And at last just one more info, to make sure one of ur previous comment is nullified, orders have been signed for some freebies :p U need not buy even this and u can very well stay in ur dream land.

But reg Jay's activities I do see some positive changes. Good for her and the state.

Harish.M said...

//My intention here is not to changge ur mind. Its to make sure that ppl don get carried away by ur half baked stories.

When things are not pleasing according to our taste,it appears half-baked :D...And all the while u have been telling that the other side of the coin is also fishy,but u never accepted the fact that whatever I have written here are well studied facts..More facts will come B-).

//And as far as ur regards is concerned, hope u get more no of comments in the future not just from me .

Thanks for ur wishes :D

Harish.M said...

//And at last just one more info, to make sure one of ur previous comment is nullified, orders have been signed for some freebies :p U need not buy even this and u can very well stay in ur dream land

You have proved that u dont know to differentiate between opinion and facts..I never said she wont give freebies,I said she can't..She has signed for rice.. Let me see if she is able to give laptops,mixies,grinders etc to everyone as promised..

But,if she makes that also a success and if she also stabilizes the economy with some good schemes and importantly,she doesn't announce such freebies in future, Jaya will get the place of one of the best CMs in the history of TN..

Get the basic difference,opinion is completely different from facts..

Karthikeyan said...

When things are not pleasing according to our taste,it appears half-baked :D...And all the while u have been telling that the other side of the coin is also fishy,but u never accepted the fact that whatever I have written here are well studied facts..More facts will come B-).

Hehehe urs are half baked and one sided arguments. Its pretty clear to anyone who reads ur blog. And to say tht urs is a well studied researched blah blah is the icing of the cake on ur seriously biased-to-the-core article which is highly flavoured with favouritism. Indeed I have given u facts to show why some points in ur article are on siede. U have blatantly refused to accept the arguments tht they are my perceptions or views and need not be true. Heights of hypocrisy dude

Karthikeyan said...

You have proved that u dont know to differentiate between opinion and facts..I never said she wont give freebies,I said she can't..She has signed for rice.. Let me see if she is able to give laptops,mixies,grinders etc to everyone as promised..

But,if she makes that also a success and if she also stabilizes the economy with some good schemes and importantly,she doesn't announce such freebies in future, Jaya will get the place of one of the best CMs in the history of TN..

Get the basic difference,opinion is completely different from facts..

I just wanted to show tht ur opinion is not right by the virtue of this fact. Guess u need to know the defn of opinion and fact. Then we ll talk abt difference.

And regarding economics balancing with freebies tht ll happen only in films and not reality. We don print notes. Its basic economics. We need not barge into tht now. As of now it is enough u get the defn of the words fact and opinion.

Harish.M said...

//I just wanted to show tht ur opinion is not right by the virtue of this fact. Guess u need to know the defn of opinion and fact. Then we ll talk abt difference

The govt has to go on for yrs..Let me see if she is able to everything that she promised..It is 99% not at all possible to provide all the freebies to everyone..I never said she won't give,all I said she can't..That's the difference between opinion and fact..U said right I need not buy this..Whats there to buy in this..I myself has stated that she wont hesitate to give freebies,all I doubted(doubt) was/is how successfully she is going to fulfill her promises of giving mixies,grinders etc..

I have a gut feeling that this will also go like 2 acre land scheme of the previous govt..

What was my opinion,that u have proved wrong? Did I ever say that Jayalalitha will not give freebies?I said she cannot give everything...Will not and cannot has lot of differences..And I stand by my opinion,she can't give laptops,grinders,mixies etc to everyone..Am pretty clear on what is fact and what is opinion..

It is u who is trying to prove something here and u end up branding me..And on that branding part,am pretty much ok..Every time someone brands me of different things,its a complement to me :D...

Karthikeyan said...

The govt has to go on for yrs..Let me see if she is able to everything that she promised..It is 99% not at all possible to provide all the freebies to everyone..I never said she won't give,all I said she can't..That's the difference between opinion and fact..U said right I need not buy this..Whats there to buy in this..I myself has stated that she wont hesitate to give freebies,all I doubted(doubt) was/is how successfully she is going to fulfill her promises of giving mixies,grinders etc..

I guess u have safely omitted rice and laptop abt which talks are on. U mite also omit mixies and grinders if she announces regarding them in the future. And ur point tht she cant , she can by boozing off the debts.So again for the sake of literal argument which u r doing this is the reply.


I have a gut feeling that this will also go like 2 acre land scheme of the previous govt..
Good if it happens

What was my opinion,that u have proved wrong? Did I ever say that Jayalalitha will not give freebies?I said she cannot give everything...Will not and cannot has lot of differences..And I stand by my opinion,she can't give laptops,grinders,mixies etc to everyone..Am pretty clear on what is fact and what is opinion..
from can't it becomes can't give everything. This is what hypocrites do. I dunno abt whether ahe will give or not I mean mixies n all, but anyway laptops are far better than TVs. And laptops will be given to students as she said. Discussions are in the pipeline. If u know the meaning of it u wouldn have asked me to know the difference between them. Atleast if u had asked me to know the difference btw can't and will not it would have made some sense. pity ur frustration

It is u who is trying to prove something here and u end up branding me..And on that branding part,am pretty much ok..Every time someone brands me of different things,its a complement to me :D...
Regarding proving a point, I need not prove anything to one who is lopsided in his views. And branding i need not brand u. U rbrand is evident from the comments u receive for ur controversial topics. And yea punch dialogues don sell these days!!!

Harish.M said...

//Hehehe urs are half baked and one sided arguments.

If u consider bashing the opposition party is what honesty or impartial means,I am not..Choosing the best available option is the wise thing to do..Here nothing is best and better one among the worst is what I have chosen..I will not fool myself thinking a new kid will save the state(or atleast the decline of state)..Infact no such charismatic face is also there in TN..

Before calling something half-baked,we should see how fully baked we are :D..Before writing these election related posts,I have communicated several people in person..After taking necessary efforts only I blogged everything..And my predictions has come true too...That is what called as research..I didn't write all these stuff watching Kalaignar Tv and Jaya Tv..Rather I simply didn't say whatever nonsense I think is right..

//Heights of hypocrisy dude

What u r doing is called hypocrisy..Without any base,just because I supported ADMK+ in these elections,u are not ready to accept the reality that DMK governance has torn TN into pieces..In ADMK's previous rule mistakes were there..Forgivable, unforgivable etc,but good things were also there.But in the past DMK govt,I don't know if there was something to praise..

Be clear on what u talk..Accusing Jayalalitha,will bring no good,when she is in opposition.. And frankly speaking,I am damn sure that there is no other alternative in Tamil Nadu right now..If u think honesty means,keep on bashing everyone,u do that..

And if u feel my posts were half-baked,I can't help u out :D..These are well studied/researched posts.. Mistakes might be there,I don't claim am a great writer,but there is a huge difference between shouting something and accusing somone without knowing most of the things and taking real efforts and writing up an article..I did the later..

When a devilish govt is ruling and there is nothing called good,if u r going to accuse the opposition which doesn't have any power and prevent the better devil from coming to power,its an utter waste of time..I will not do that.. If the ruling govt does something good,we can appreciate,if it doesn't no point in supporting them..

Harish.M said...

//I guess u have safely omitted rice and laptop abt which talks are on. U mite also omit mixies and grinders if she announces regarding them in the future. And ur point tht she cant , she can by boozing off the debts.So again for the sake of literal argument which u r doing this is the reply.

I never omitted anything..My statement implies it..The DMK claims they have given color TV to everyone,do u think they gave to everyone as they promised and they never gave land to anyone..That is the meaning of 'inabilitiy' to give..That's what I said,she can't give...Am not framing a rule book to write every single word perfectly..If u think that I said she will not even sign for freebies :D,its not my mistake.. I can't predict what will Jayalalitha do every second.. On a general perspective,it is not possible to give freebies successfully..They may give to ADMK partymen and some people for what vote bank..That is not the success of the scheme..If she announces freebies,she should give it as promised,but it is not possible..


//Regarding proving a point, I need not prove anything to one who is lopsided in his views.

I can wake up a person who is sleeping but not the one who pretends to be :D..You are one such :D

//Atleast if u had asked me to know the difference btw can't and will not it would have made some sense. pity ur frustration


What I said is perfectly right..You only said right,I can't buy the fact that she has signed for rice,her signing for rice is a fact,whether I accept or not,its a fact..But opinion is something like the past DMK govt is the worst in the recent times..That is my opinion and your opinion might be something different and I will not buy that..Think before u accuse me :D..

//And laptops will be given to students as she said. Discussions are in the pipeline.

Let me see how far she becomes succesful :D

//And branding i need not brand u. U rbrand is evident from the comments u receive for ur controversial topics

I didn't get any comment from anyone other than u :D..And whats there to deny in that..3 topics about elections before the elections and 2 after that,in all these 5 I have supported ADMK... If going by those posts,right now my brand is ADMK only :D...For that reason if u think am a partyman or a staunch follower/supporter/sympathizer of that party,that is your perception..

As a common,opinions are bound to change during every elections based on the performance of the govt...

Karthikeyan said...

If u consider bashing the opposition party is what honesty or impartial means,I am not..Choosing the best available option is the wise thing to do..Here nothing is best and better one among the worst is what I have chosen..I will not fool myself thinking a new kid will save the state(or atleast the decline of state)..Infact no such charismatic face is also there in TN..

Hahaah as though u hve been supporting ADMK only this election dude i think I was in touch with u during the previous election too. Criticism of one party alone is wat i call favouritism . ADMK is equally worth the criticisms as DMK. If not now atleast in the past. which u have failed to do.
And yea about a charismatic leader coming to power out of nowhere, even if someone tries maniacs like u might not let them grow. aND REGARDING admk being the only alternative in TN i do know tht. but doesnt mean one has to blindly shake his head for everthing the party does or every statement the parties maniacs throw

About me being clear, I hve been pretty clear I guess. I said 2001 elections is just arithmetics as 2006. I proved it with facts which u safely evaded by now. Even if u feel i am bashing(though i m just pointing out realities), then in tht case, as u said One cannot criticize Opposition party. Its your quote. I just repeat it.


And if u feel my posts were half-baked,I can't help u out :D..These are well studied/researched posts.. Mistakes might be there,I don't claim am a great writer,but there is a huge difference between shouting something and accusing somone without knowing most of the things and taking real efforts and writing up an article..I did the later..
I endorse this . I just pity how u fail to find my posts as researched/studied so n so n so even though i hve given enuf proof. Hypocrisy pls refer dictionary. nothing else to comment on it.

When a devilish govt is ruling and there is nothing called good,if u r going to accuse the opposition which doesn't have any power and prevent the better devil from coming to power,its an utter waste of time..I will not do that.. If the ruling govt does something good,we can appreciate,if it doesn't no point in supporting them..
Hehehe seems it applies better to u. And yea criticizing the ruling govt is not bad. tht doesnt stop one from pointing out the mistakes of the opposition. I guess freebies are now being given by ruling govt for ur info:p

Karthikeyan said...

I never omitted anything..My statement implies it..The DMK claims they have given color TV to everyone,do u think they gave to everyone as they promised and they never gave land to anyone..That is the meaning of 'inabilitiy' to give..That's what I said,she can't give...Am not framing a rule book to write every single word perfectly..If u think that I said she will not even sign for freebies :D,its not my mistake.. I can't predict what will Jayalalitha do every second.. On a general perspective,it is not possible to give freebies successfully..They may give to ADMK partymen and some people for what vote bank..That is not the success of the scheme..If she announces freebies,she should give it as promised,but it is not possible.

Thts wat even i m telling She is doin the same thing wat DMK did. Tht doesnt justify the act. And abt inability to give. As i said u can do it by increasing ur debts. My point tht she is no different from Kay is being strengthened by ur point. So the question whether she will is broken by the fact i had pointed. And the question of whether she can its obvious.

I can wake up a person who is sleeping but not the one who pretends to be :D..You are one such :D

greatest comedy of this century till date. Its my dialogue not yours. As i said u prove wy u r a hypocrite.


What I said is perfectly right..You only said right,I can't buy the fact that she has signed for rice,her signing for rice is a fact,whether I accept or not,its a fact..But opinion is something like the past DMK govt is the worst in the recent times..That is my opinion and your opinion might be something different and I will not buy that..Think before u accuse me :D..

hehehe u r seriously freaking out of frustration i guess. The difference between cant and will not is not about the sentence u r talkin. Its about whether jay cant do it or wont do it. And yea again I dunno how its possible for uu to advice to urself.

I didn't get any comment from anyone other than u :D..And whats there to deny in that..3 topics about elections before the elections and 2 after that,in all these 5 I have supported ADMK... If going by those posts,right now my brand is ADMK only :D...For that reason if u think am a partyman or a staunch follower/supporter/sympathizer of that party,that is your perception..


Just 5 posts. Everyone knows abt ur posts. u urself have cited tht in ur earlier post tht maybe this is the frst time i m not criticizing DMK something like tht. So don throw tantrums now out of frustration


And yea if u r a common, then how should i call the real common??????

Harish.M said...

//About me being clear, I hve been pretty clear I guess. I said 2001 elections is just arithmetics as 2006. I proved it with facts which u safely evaded by now. Even if u feel i am bashing(though i m just pointing out realities), then in tht case, as u said One cannot criticize Opposition party. Its your quote. I just repeat it.


You have said something and claims to have proved that :D..I appreciate u for that..31 seats is no where near 61..No vote split was there in 2001,but it was there in 06..U have easily avoided the fact by quoting DMK contested in less places..They contested 132 and won just 96 seats...which means a loss of 36 seats and with the strongest possible alliance..Again this is called anti-incumbency :D

//Hahaah as though u hve been supporting ADMK only this election dude i think I was in touch with u during the previous election too. Criticism of one party alone is wat i call favouritism . ADMK is equally worth the criticisms as DMK. If not now atleast in the past. which u have failed to do.
And yea about a charismatic leader coming to power out of nowhere, even if someone tries maniacs like u might not let them grow. aND REGARDING admk being the only alternative in TN i do know tht. but doesnt mean one has to blindly shake his head for everthing the party does or every statement the parties maniacs throw

I clearly said u were in touch with me only from 2005 and u know my political views and stand only after 2006,by that time DMK came to power...You need not imagine what I did from 2001-05...When u don't know that,u can't say something just like that..

//And yea about a charismatic leader coming to power out of nowhere, even if someone tries maniacs like u might not let them grow. aND REGARDING admk being the only alternative in TN i do know tht. but doesnt mean one has to blindly shake his head for everthing the party does or every statement the parties maniacs throw

Don't make funny statements like that :D..If the person is really charismatic and determined,no maniac as u claim can stop them.. Anna came to power against Congress,MGR came to power defeating Karunanidhi,Morarji Desai became PM defeating Indira Gandhi,Nithish Kumar became CM ending the Laloo's jungle Raj.. No maniac could stop these charismatic leaders :D..Come to reality :D,just because this blog's title says "Start Dreaming",don't be dreaming always :D

//Hypocrisy pls refer dictionary.

Wow!!!What an advice :D..

// And yea criticizing the ruling govt is not bad. tht doesnt stop one from pointing out the mistakes of the opposition. I guess freebies are now being given by ruling govt for ur info:p

When there is no worthy mistake from a party while it was in opposition,there is no point in spending all the time to invent mistakes :D..Or if u think being the opposition itself a mistake,I can't accept...That may be the view of self-proclaimed intellectuals like u but not branded maniacs like me :D..

Regd freebies,no party in Tamil Nadu has the guts to give a manifesto without freebies..So if u think freebie alone is the yardstick for voting,that is not my mistake..

// One cannot criticize Opposition party

That I said when a devilish govt is there..refer my previous comment..But yes,when the govt is bad,only the ruling govt has to be criticized,which applies to every govt..

Harish.M said...

//Thts wat even i m telling She is doin the same thing wat DMK did. Tht doesnt justify the act. And abt inability to give. As i said u can do it by increasing ur debts. My point tht she is no different from Kay is being strengthened by ur point. So the question whether she will is broken by the fact i had pointed. And the question of whether she can its obvious.

The comparison is not between Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi..Its between DMK govt and ADMK govt..I never questioned her 'will'..I mentioned long back in this same forum that,"not that she wont,but she can't"..Regarding increasing debts,that every govt has done in the past..But before DMK came to power in 2006,there were some schemes to generate revenue..And the DMK benefitted from it..

//greatest comedy of this century till date. Its my dialogue not yours. As i said u prove wy u r a hypocrite.

funny you are..when I was 5 yrs old,my grandparents used to tell this proverb and recently,in Indian Express they have mentioned this sentence..Who knows they might have copied from u..

//Just 5 posts. Everyone knows abt ur posts. u urself have cited tht in ur earlier post tht maybe this is the frst time i m not criticizing DMK something like tht. So don throw tantrums now out of frustration


I said 5 posts about elections..Criticizing DMK itself is pro-ADMK huh :D..R u mean to say that,I should not criticize DMK?Expecting more from u..

//And yea if u r a common, then how should i call the real common??????


That is your problem..

Harish.M said...

I dont know who is real common man to u..May be someone who accepts everything u say or someone who supports DMK :D or someone is against ADMK or something else :D..Right now I don't fit into these categories..I consider myself as common man only.. If u have some different meaning for it,then u should give a better term on how to call 'ur-so-called-common man'..

Karthikeyan said...

You have said something and claims to have proved that :D..I appreciate u for that..31 seats is no where near 61..No vote split was there in 2001,but it was there in 06..U have easily avoided the fact by quoting DMK contested in less places..They contested 132 and won just 96 seats...which means a loss of 36 seats and with the strongest possible alliance..Again this is called anti-incumbency :D

U just din get it the DMK s vote share remained intact even in 2001 . I have given u the link. Pls refer it. Pretty obvious tht it is sheer arithmetics. And u say anti incumbency. I guess in one of the previous posts u told it was a decent rule. eating up own words has become the rule of the day or what????? And regarding 2006 yes its again arithmetics.This has been my argument. Pls chk the very frst post i posted. My point is both 2001 and 2006 are sheer arithmetics.Simple. Fanaticism can blind ppl eh??? :D

I clearly said u were in touch with me only from 2005 and u know my political views and stand only after 2006,by that time DMK came to power...You need not imagine what I did from 2001-05...When u don't know that,u can't say something just like that..

I guess there was a election in 2006 too. So my statements are not based on imaginations or favouritism like you do. There was a good one year to know the pulse of the person whom u interact. I don want to cite any personal comments issued to me by u. But I do stand by my case.


Don't make funny statements like that :D..If the person is really charismatic and determined,no maniac as u claim can stop them.. Anna came to power against Congress,MGR came to power defeating Karunanidhi,Morarji Desai became PM defeating Indira Gandhi,Nithish Kumar became CM ending the Laloo's jungle Raj.. No maniac could stop these charismatic leaders :D..Come to reality :D,just because this blog's title says "Start Dreaming",don't be dreaming always :D

Hehehehee who is funny here. One anna or One nitish kumar mite have come, there are many who can if favouritism and fanaticicm is not there. If one can vote after proper analysis and thought many would have evolved. I had safely omitted the other names, as I don know about one, and about the other he mite be charismatic but not the kind of leader i m talking abt.

When there is no worthy mistake from a party while it was in opposition,there is no point in spending all the time to invent mistakes :D..Or if u think being the opposition itself a mistake,I can't accept...That may be the view of self-proclaimed intellectuals like u but not branded maniacs like me :D..

Hehehhe again. I m just awestruck by ur intelligence to wrongly interpret any given statement.I said the freebies are given by the ruling party now
Its no longer an oppositiion party. By your literal maniac kinda argument i m well placed with my self proclaimed intellectuallity to criticize it.
Regarding freebies as I said again ur double standard mindset which is completely driven by favouritism is coming to light.


That I said when a devilish govt is there..refer my previous comment..But yes,when the govt is bad,only the ruling govt has to be criticized,which applies to every govt..
So what abt the actions of this govt where is ur self proclaimed neutrality

Regarding my intellectuality, hehehe i never proclaimed to be one. So the term self proclaimed is not relevant here. (ooxford dictionary is a good one i guess. do get it. a pocket size one should do) So may be u can brand me. Its better to be branded as a intellectual than a maniac.

Karthikeyan said...

The comparison is not between Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi..Its between DMK govt and ADMK govt..I never questioned her 'will'..I mentioned long back in this same forum that,"not that she wont,but she can't"..Regarding increasing debts,that every govt has done in the past..But before DMK came to power in 2006,there were some schemes to generate revenue..And the DMK benefitted from it..

Again how is it so easy for u to do so. Man u r seriously awesome.U preach to urself. U talk about urself. awesome. She cant is not justified. It can be done by increasing debts i said. Simple. I dunno what u found here to argue. Regarding the other part very much true. I never argued abt it. Dunno y u brought it out of the air.(Though there are some objections i find them irrelevant to the context)

funny you are..when I was 5 yrs old,my grandparents used to tell this proverb and recently,in Indian Express they have mentioned this sentence..Who knows they might have copied from u..
Let me tell u one thing . I m pretty serious. Pls dont be frustrated. Understand my statements properly. I never said some one copied. I said its applicable to u n not me.


I said 5 posts about elections..Criticizing DMK itself is pro-ADMK huh :D..R u mean to say that,I should not criticize DMK?Expecting more from u..

Again u don get my point criticizing DMK is not wrong I do it many a times on their policies. But failing to criticize a party close to heart is fanaticism is not called for. It is the way of life for maniacs

I dont know who is real common man to u..May be someone who accepts everything u say or someone who supports DMK :D or someone is against ADMK or something else :D..Right now I don't fit into these categories..I consider myself as common man only.. If u have some different meaning for it,then u should give a better term on how to call 'ur-so-called-common man'..


A common man is one who can see the positives and negatives of both sides. A maniac is one who talks about positives of one side and negatives of the other.

Harish.M said...

//U just din get it the DMK s vote share remained intact even in 2001 . I have given u the link. Pls refer it. Pretty obvious tht it is sheer arithmetics. And u say anti incumbency. I guess in one of the previous posts u told it was a decent rule. eating up own words has become the rule of the day or what????? And regarding 2006 yes its again arithmetics.This has been my argument. Pls chk the very frst post i posted. My point is both 2001 and 2006 are sheer arithmetics.Simple. Fanaticism can blind ppl eh??? :D

So u mean to say that ADMK has a
bigger voteshar compared to DMK?

//Hehehehee who is funny here. One anna or One nitish kumar mite have come, there are many who can if favouritism and fanaticicm is not there. If one can vote after proper analysis and thought many would have evolved. I had safely omitted the other names, as I don know about one, and about the other he mite be charismatic but not the kind of leader i m talking abt.


Only the one who wins all these odds including your so called maniacs will become a leader and if he is charismatic,nothing can stop him..

//Hehehhe again. I m just awestruck by ur intelligence to wrongly interpret any given statement.I said the freebies are given by the ruling party now
Its no longer an oppositiion party. By your literal maniac kinda argument i m well placed with my self proclaimed intellectuallity to criticize it.
Regarding freebies as I said again ur double standard mindset which is completely driven by favouritism is coming to light.


wow!!what an invention :D..You found that ADMK is the ruling party now :D..I am yet to write a post about the new govt..It needs time to be criticized..Out of insecurity ADMK announced freebies..I never told this right :D..Even while writing election related posts,I said there are some positive aspects in ADMK manifesto other than this..Which means am not ok with the freebies given by any govt..

//So what abt the actions of this govt where is ur self proclaimed neutrality

You proved that your aim is to bash ADMK govt..I go by the Kamarajar way..After suffering a defeat in the elections,Kamaraj asked his partymen not to criticize DMK for atleast 6 months,as it needs time to get settled..The duration need not necessarily be same 6 months(may be even lesser),but just because a new govt has been sworn in,criticizing it,that too within a week,is not the wise thing to do..

//Regarding my intellectuality, hehehe i never proclaimed to be one. So the term self proclaimed is not relevant here. (ooxford dictionary is a good one i guess. do get it. a pocket size one should do)

It is something like how u branded me by posts,same way I discovered it from the way u argue :D

// So may be u can brand me. Its better to be branded as a intellectual than a maniac.

Don't take jovial comments serious dude..Sarcasm is not your cup of tea

Harish.M said...

//She cant is not justified. It can be done by increasing debts i said.

It is still not done..Again it is your opinion that it can be done and it is my opinion that she can increase debts but not make these freebies scheme a success..

//But failing to criticize a party close to heart is fanaticism is not called for. It is the way of life for maniacs

I have answered several times to this question :D

//A common man is one who can see the positives and negatives of both sides. A maniac is one who talks about positives of one side and negatives of the other.


oh I never knew this :D..A common man here means,a person who is concerned about his day to day life..The definition u gave holds good for an analyst..And I don't know what u really want :D..I have answered so many times regd criticizing Jayalalitha..

Harish.M said...

//Let me tell u one thing . I m pretty serious. Pls dont be frustrated. Understand my statements properly. I never said some one copied. I said its applicable to u n not me.


oh,you have found it out that it is applicable only to me..ok u told,I agreed!!You want me to do this na :D,done..

Harish.M said...

//I guess there was a election in 2006 too. So my statements are not based on imaginations or favouritism like you do. There was a good one year to know the pulse of the person whom u interact. I don want to cite any personal comments issued to me by u. But I do stand by my case.

That's what I said,you made ur own imaginations based on the 1 year that how the past 4-5 yrs would have been :D..This is called perception for which I need not care :-)..

Karthikeyan said...

So u mean to say that ADMK has a
bigger voteshar compared to DMK?
Obvious any TN politics observer should know this. Individually ADMK has a stronger base than DMK .

Only the one who wins all these odds including your so called maniacs will become a leader and if he is charismatic,nothing can stop him..
Yea true the ppl whom u pointed are those. But doesnt this fanaticism of urs distrupt the national growth . Why not see the world with ur eyes thn use a coloured glass

wow!!what an invention :D..You found that ADMK is the ruling party now :D..I am yet to write a post about the new govt..It needs time to be criticized..Out of insecurity ADMK announced freebies..I never told this right :D..Even while writing election related posts,I said there are some positive aspects in ADMK manifesto other than this..Which means am not ok with the freebies given by any govt..

Seriously whats up with u. Because of ur unique or may be innate ability to wrongly interpret things, how could u blame me. I hve been telling the same in my previous posts related to this issue. Ah atleast u accept this abt freebies. SO long I was just arguing tht when u criticize one side why not the other wen there is a mistake. fanaticism man this is wat it is. It blinds ppl and makes them deaf.

You proved that your aim is to bash ADMK govt..I go by the Kamarajar way..After suffering a defeat in the elections,Kamaraj asked his partymen not to criticize DMK for atleast 6 months,as it needs time to get settled..The duration need not necessarily be same 6 months(may be even lesser),but just because a new govt has been sworn in,criticizing it,that too within a week,is not the wise thing to do..

I would bash any govt for the things it does.U following the kamaraj way. Man leave tht fellow. don use him for ur whim. You were the same person who criticized DMK in 2006 . Going by ur arguments of time I hace solid five yrs here. Within a week or mnth, if its against the interest of nation it is condemnable. How is it possible for maniacs to take such a ]double standard.


It is something like how u branded me by posts,same way I discovered it from the way u argue :D


Hehehe again u r eating ur own words. when u brand me how can tht be self proclaimed. And thanks fr ur branding I m pretty happy about this.


Don't take jovial comments serious dude..Sarcasm is not your cup of tea
Sarcasm might not be my cup of tea.Very true. But yea neither it is urs. Its evident from ur tantrums. But yes I am happy to be direct thn being witty and coward in the name of sarcasm:p

Karthikeyan said...

It is still not done..Again it is your opinion that it can be done and it is my opinion that she can increase debts but not make these freebies scheme a success..
No way opinion plays anything here. Its a fact. Dude this is day to day economics. Get debt u can do it. Where does opinion come here

oh I never knew this :D..A common man here means,a person who is concerned about his day to day life..The definition u gave holds good for an analyst..And I don't know what u really want :D..I have answered so many times regd criticizing Jayalalitha..
yea he is concerned abt his day to day life. He ll never have time to think abt DMK or ADMK. As of for him both are same. good or bad.He ll see them with the same eyes instead of glasses taintedd with fanaticism

Karthikeyan said...

oh,you have found it out that it is applicable only to me..ok u told,I agreed!!You want me to do this na :D,done.

Dude dude pls pls no frustration. be urself. :p

Karthikeyan.D said...

That's what I said,you made ur own imaginations based on the 1 year that how the past 4-5 yrs would have been :D..This is called perception for which I need not care :-)..

hehehe.Why should I imagine abt ur past.my so called imaginations are based on statements and comments made by u while interacting with u. U need not care abt perception but yes u need not even care about even if its true. Truth or perception its u who hve to decide

Harish.M said...

DMK rocks..Also DK rocks :D.. You are bringing in so many things into this discussion,which are not related to topic :D..

Thanks for the entertainment,if u say that am a maniac or fanatic, u r no different from me..That is clearly evident from ur neutralism in criticizing a govt which has completed just 5 days in office :D..

I didn't accept anything abt freebies after u said,I am just maintaining the same stand,if u imagine everything I can't help u out..

U r a genius man,u can find out the nature of a weekly magazine in a single read,u can find a person's 4 yr past in 1 yr interaction..Way to go :D

Thanks for the entertainment.. :D What am doing is perfectly right and I don't need ur certificate for anything..As I already said I am least bothered abt all ur crap brandings..

Karthikeyan said...

I m not supporting and arguing literally for the sake of arguing for any party. My first post is my view on ur blog. Arguments grew based on ur replies. And they were all proper replies to ur posts. I dunno wat logic u hold to say I m a maniac. While I have cited so many to prove ur one.


I didn't accept anything abt freebies after u said,I am just maintaining the same stand,if u imagine everything I can't help u out..
My only criticism abt this present govt is the freebies. And it is a fact. I have not criticized any thing else abt their performance as of now.If u can’t interpret wat other genius(ur title to me) ppl tell better button up and stay away from throwing tantrums.


U r a genius man,u can find out the nature of a weekly magazine in a single read,u can find a person's 4 yr past in 1 yr interaction..Way to go :D
Genius ppl don need so much time I guess. Any person should be able to analyse a paper or magazines worth after a considerable read. Now there is no need to be frustrated at it. Fanaticism blinding eyes is quiet common. Pls stay calm. And yea I m not commenting abt the 4 yrs as u said. I have clearly cited the one year only. This is something which u need to get frustrated abt. Develop ur interpretation skills. Pls. You hve been continuing this

Thanks for the entertainment.. :D What am doing is perfectly right and I don't need ur certificate for anything..As I already said I am least bothered abt all ur crap brandings..
Hehee I m not certifyin anyone here. U need not be certified either. Not worth to be honest. And yea abt the branding, it is done for something which is about to go. Not for an established product. U do nt require branding. U r outside the purview of it. U r one maniac. And about not caring. Doesn’t seem so from ur frustration and the way u reply..